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Mar 25 11 9:26 AM
Weirdie wrote:Sean Brennan wrote: Our Soviet motto was "Art belongs to people". Art shouldn't be luxury items for the well-off only. Ability and necessity to consume "spiritual food" distinguishes people from animals. Should we consume only material things if we don't have spare money?Ok, if art belongs to the people, then where are the state run subsidies that are paid by the people supporting the artists? Are you willing to pay extra taxes so that you can listen to free music? Art doesn't magically appear, at no cost. It's cost a LOT of money and time to create. If you want art for free, that's fine- but then you need to be paying all artists a salary to create that art.Totally agree! That's why I said that the system itself is vicious.
Sean Brennan wrote: Our Soviet motto was "Art belongs to people". Art shouldn't be luxury items for the well-off only. Ability and necessity to consume "spiritual food" distinguishes people from animals. Should we consume only material things if we don't have spare money?Ok, if art belongs to the people, then where are the state run subsidies that are paid by the people supporting the artists? Are you willing to pay extra taxes so that you can listen to free music? Art doesn't magically appear, at no cost. It's cost a LOT of money and time to create. If you want art for free, that's fine- but then you need to be paying all artists a salary to create that art.
Our Soviet motto was "Art belongs to people". Art shouldn't be luxury items for the well-off only. Ability and necessity to consume "spiritual food" distinguishes people from animals. Should we consume only material things if we don't have spare money?
I'm talking NOT about those who upload music (and I've never tried to defend them!), but about those who watch Youtube. These people are not the same. For example, I watch youtube, but I've never uploaded a single song anywhere and I'm not planning to do so. From moral point of view, people watching videos online do nothing different from listening to radio or watching TV. These listeners/watchers can't even know which files are put there legally and which ones not. And they pay nothing to those who upload files, thus don't support illegal uploading...
Again, it's just my perception, and here's no need to argue at all.
Weirdie wrote:Sean Brennan wrote: As for musicians, it really seems that they can earn a living only by live performances nowadays... And by the way, after concerts CDs (together with other merchandise) always sell well.Wow, where have you been? I've addressed this VERY point literally dozens and dozens of times over the years. Here we go again: 1. Not all artists perform live. 2. Not all artists WANT to be FORCED to perform live in order to earn a living. ALSO- you're asking the artist to be paid for only ONE aspect of his job- live performance (if indeed that artist performs live), and NOT the creation of the art......... You got me wrong. I DO know that you don't like to tour, as well as some other musicians. I don't say that you have to.
Sean Brennan wrote: As for musicians, it really seems that they can earn a living only by live performances nowadays... And by the way, after concerts CDs (together with other merchandise) always sell well.Wow, where have you been? I've addressed this VERY point literally dozens and dozens of times over the years. Here we go again: 1. Not all artists perform live. 2. Not all artists WANT to be FORCED to perform live in order to earn a living. ALSO- you're asking the artist to be paid for only ONE aspect of his job- live performance (if indeed that artist performs live), and NOT the creation of the art.........
As for musicians, it really seems that they can earn a living only by live performances nowadays... And by the way, after concerts CDs (together with other merchandise) always sell well.
And I'm not asking or requiring anything. Actually, I'm not talking about MY preferences at all! I only said that in current situation - in reality - it seems impossible for a musician to earn a living unless he/she performs live. And it's not even my personal opinion, but an opinion of some other musicians (they're probably more lucky than Birthday Massacre, since they get decent payments and their expences such as transportation are fully covered by concert organizers).
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