i'd like to thanks sean for taking the time out to talk to his friends and be a key member on this forum, and then to say what he feels is right even though i don't agree with it half the time.
"voice or no voice, the peopl can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to greater danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering Commander in chief of the Luftwaffe