The people involved should work their problems out
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Maybe we should just drop it? I mean, I haven't been in this forum long enough and I don't know how often this happens, but this could be a really
interesting topic
The people involved should work their problems out
... they call me on and on across the Universe...
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Erilun |
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WHY ARE WE ON THIS PLANET.?????
cause of big bang i guess do you believe in GOD? no, i do believe there are civilazations far more technologically advanced that in our eyes would seem "gods". Religion i believe, is a human invention to control people. You dont need religion to tell you to be a nice person. an afterlife? nah i doubt, once you die thats it...you return to the nothingness but i won't have a problem if im proven wrong on this one! (guess i'll have to wait). a nice quote about this subject:"Death is the state, where one exists only in the memory of others, which is why it is not the end." that we have souls? doesnt make much of a difference to me to be honest evolution? big bang, from star dust to electrochemical machines (also known as humans) aliens? there are around 200 billion solar systems (like our own) in our galaxy, there are several hundreds of billion of galaxies in our universe as scientists calculate. those 2 lead me to the conclusion that aliens do exist. The possibility of planets with same characteristics as earth (who favor the development of life) is huge (based on the fact that there are so many solar systems+galaxies in our universe). I hope one day we will be able to discover other life forms (but then again if we do we will probably try to conquer em)
Jim
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AnnaMariaS |
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Nabs wrote:
"Maybe we should just drop it? I mean, I haven't been in this forum long enough and I don't know how often this happens, but this could be a really interesting topic TwistedDreams has been abusive to various people on the board and has posted NUMEROUS angry or bizarre replies, that she has later deleted. Because of such constant posts on this board, this is something that many of us have had to deal with and I would like to get this problem solved so that we, as a community, don't have to deal with such posts any more. Anna |
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Maybe we should just drop it? I mean, I haven't been in this forum long enough and I don't know how often this happens, but this could be a really interesting topicI agree, but sometimes certain things need to be said, otherwise people get the impression that this type of behaviour is acceptable. Anyway, back to the topic of the discussion: WHY ARE WE ON THIS PLANET.????? Does it matter why? We are here now, so let's make the best of it. do you believe in GOD? This question cannot be answered unless a clear definition of God is provided. To provide a definition we need to understand what God is. However, understanding God means that God can be defined within the limitations of human perception. Such a God I don't believe in, as it is a construction of the human mind, satisfying a specific need, the need to explain the unexplained. I believe that there is existence outside the human domain of understanding, whether that's God or something else is beside the point. I believe that believing is God is unecessary and irrelevant. What is more important is to have a happy and fulfilling life, in harmony and in equilibrium with our natural and social environment. an afterlife? Life keeps me preoccupied enough, so I don't feel the need to consider afterlife. It's out of my control, speculation is pointless, so I'll cross that bridge when the time comes. that we have souls? What is a soul? Define. And does it matter?? We are what we are what we are. Why believe that we are something more? We are a complex mixture of different forms of energy that result to a conscious existence. If the energy changes form or is broken into it's components who knows what happens to concience? evolution? Is there actually a question about it? It is scientifically proven that living organisms evolve through the process of natural selection. What's the counter argument, what is the basis of the contrary?? Any remotely intelligent being who has some theological education understands that the story of Creation is symbolic. At least that what we are tought at school this side of the Atlantic. aliens? As per Erilun's point, the probability of Earth being the only planet with the necessary conditions for life similar to ours to develop is pretty remote. Not to mention that living organisms may not necessarily exist in the same form as ours, ie carbon based.
Thalia
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Thalia, I agree with your post!
In addition to what Thalia wrote, TwistedDreams has been writing tons of emails to Sean, attempting to get his attention through email and on this board. Sean does NOT know her, has NEVER met her, and has been incredibly kind and polite, in spite of the drama that she has been attempting to create both through email and here. This response is just one of many unwarranted, extraordinarily rude overreactions that she has made to someone on this board. Sean wrote NOTHING rude and was not belittling anyone. He merely answered TwistedDreams questions and she became extraordinarily angry and abusive for NO reason. I am tired of seeing her treat people on this board in this way. She constantly gets irate and writes horrible things, then deletes them. For example, TwistedDreams wrote this to Catherine74 in another thread and later deleted it: "get a real life you fucking loser i am so out of here. and to sean brennan. i don't want one fucking email stating that these are good people. cause if these "friends" of yours were good. they would be nice to me like you have been. where do you find them? you guys can't rant and rave about politics and fucking put pics up of animals licking their balls, and when i post something that is VERY IMPORTANT on the NON LAM discussion. this is how i am treated. FUCK YOU . i will fucking kill you and slice you up you piece of shit and you should never talk to someone with depression this way. you are a FUCKING TRUE asshole and I HOPE you die. like NOW. i don't care if it is about a FONT. it is RIDICULE FOR NO FUCKING REASON... fuck you fuck you" Here TwistedDreams actually threatens to KILL Catherine74!!! TwistedDreams has posted numerous times on THIS board that she has mental health problems, and many of her posts on this board clearly show mental problems, as well, which is why Sean has been EXCEEDINGLY tolerant . Sean has been OVERLY kind and tolerant to TwistedDreams, and there is NO reason for her to be abusive towards him or anyone else! TwistedDreams wrote: oh yeah...i am starting to believe HALLOWS even more..let anyone come on here and say that MR.SEAN BRENNAN is CORRECT Actually NOBODY has said that Sean is correct in this thread, so this makes NO sense. What are you trying to say here? Sean has NOT "slammed shit down" your "throat." Where does he do this in this thread? It seems like TwistedDreams may be upset because she misinterpreted what Sean wrote and believes that he is disagreeing with HER. First of all Sean is NOT disagreeing with OR agreeing with her. He is merely answering her initial questions. Furthermore, like Thalia wrote, TwistedDreams is REALLY the one at fault here. Why get so irate even if Sean did disagree with TwistedDreams, which he did NOT do in this thread? This is a discussion board, however, and there is NO need to be abusive, even if there is a difference of opinion, which did NOT occur here. It is VERY clear that TwistedDreams has some obsessions with Sean and feels the need to gain his attention in ANY way possible. The numerous emails that she sends to Sean and the numerous posts that she has made on this board seeking out Sean's approval and attention and becoming angry and deleting them if Sean does not reply, make this fact quite apparent. This is really not acceptable behavior, however, and TwistedDreams REALLY needs to get some help, for her own sake, prior to returning to this board or sending any more emails. Anna |
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luna |
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Why we are on this planet?
I do not know, but I have a whole life to find it out. Do you believe in GOD? Yes, I do. an afterlife? I am busy with this life, I have at the moment, to make it right and to find my place here. So I am not thinking of an afterlife or a beforelife. that we have souls? If we have souls, I think than other lifeforms have souls, too. evolution? Are there doubts about this prozess? This theory was never debunked, since it was made. aliens? I have heard of this, but was not interested in it. So I can not make a statement. Luna |
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Nabs |
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@AnnaMaria: Ooooh I see
... they call me on and on across the Universe...
"I once had blue eyes, hungry and wise, now they are black from this dark age of lies!"- Daniel Gildenlow |
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there is no love in war...........this makes one very sad |
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Sean Brennan |
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Like AnnaMariaS said in post #45 of this thread, TwistedDreams has actually misrepresented what I wrote so badly that even people who don't agree with her
abusive nature, who have posted in this thread, have the wrong impression of what I wrote (under the impression that I disagreed with some major point she
made).
For one, I never really disagreed or agreed with anything she wrote, because she really didn't say anything. I simply offered some answers to her questions. She got all bent out of shape over absolutely nothing. Seriously, NOTHING. As usual. Like Anna has said, she has done this REPEATEDLY, here and by email. Again, I don't even know her! And to be honest and I sick to fucking death of this bullshit. She has tried to cause drama here, by email, and elsewhere and I think it's time she stopped. Like Anna said, it's important this situation be sorted out rather than "dropping it" so it doesn't happen again and so the person responsible learns how to behave, or at least understands that we won't tolerate it anymore. Sean
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beanailt |
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Why are we on this planet?
I don't thing there is a higher purpose. But since we are here - To make a difference and to make the time we are here count for something. Do you believe in God? No. An afterlife? Not really. It's very human to not accept that there's nothing after this life. But I guess that for some it makes it easier to cope with our mortality, and that everything must come to an end eventually. That we have souls? No, not really. I believe all lifeforms have something, but not a soul in the traditional sense. Evolution? A fact is a fact is a fact Aliens? I have always thought it to be a bit arrogant to think that this planet is the only one with life in the entire universe. On another note: I find the anger expressed in this thread disturbing really, as it came out of no where and was totally unprovoked. If you can't behave and treat the people here with the respect they deserve and has shown you, you should really stop posting here, imo. |
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dekoya18840 |
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hopes that there is still love left in the hearts of many.............
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RahelaAsmara |
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Wow......just wow....
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AnnaMariaS |
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Dekoya18840 wrote:
I there is no love in war...........this makes one very sad There is no war. This is just some of us pointing out facts and the truth about what has been going on here because it seems as though some people were unclear about WHY we are tired of TwistedDreams abusive posts. Because it STILL seems unclear, I will post just a few of the things that TwistedDreams has written on this board and deleted. This is only a fraction of the abusive things that TwistedDreams has written and does not even cover the HUGE number of emails to Sean, that were filled with drama and obsession or the comments to another member of the board filled with fantasies about Sean having sex with her. Sexual fantasies about Sean are fine, but writing about having sex with Sean and not clarifying that it was only her fantasy, when other people could read her comments and may not know the truth and take her comments as fact, is not fair to Sean. Again, we just want TwistedDreams to get her mental health issues sorted out by seeking out professional help and getting these behaviors under control before posting here or emailing Sean again. The ONLY person who can REALLY help TwistedDreams is a professional! Here is an example of some of the posts that TwistedDreams has made and deleted on the board, so that people can get a better understanding of WHY Thalia, Sean, I and others are tired of this stuff! These posts are in chronological order, so you can see that TwistedDreams is very upset one day, then she says that she loves Sean and is friends with the members of this board the next: thanks SO MUCH! that was the SWEETEST thing FUCK YOU get a real life you fucking loser you are a fucking weirdo. fucking eat me you slut HOW on earth can people be so fucking mean to me. ok. so most people know from an earlier post that i suffer from severe DEPRESSION. (ever since i was molested by my uncle and much much else...including seeing MY BEST FRIEND : MY MOM TAKE HER LAST BREATH AS SHE HELD HER HAND ON MY LEFT CHEEK TELLING ME SHE LOVES ME AND IS SO PROUD OF ME!!) people also know that i was SUICIDAL and I can't believe I spent over 75$ of my well earned money buying cd's...etc./ Sean, I am proud to say that I am a HUGE FAN! But for reasons other than what HALLOWS was implying. I respect you and your artistry. And I completely understand why you get sick of hearing the same "rhetoric" about why people want to be here on YUKU, etc...And speaking only for me, what is the big deal if I enjoy your works and think you are sexy? IS THAT A SIN??? I mean, this is so IRONIC that the one who started , really started this (Carly) wanted to become a "friend" and get your approval? I give you so much credit for always sticking to your ideals and trying to "correct" any negativity that gets thrown your way. I have been trouble too. I remember using the same callous "fan" shit to ANNAMARIA the first day that i came to this board. And, I too, have apologized and SINCERELY. I have realized that the people here are TRUE fans and we all share a common bond, LAM. Whether or not people think that we do it just for "fawning" purposes is ridiculous. And, earlier you mentioned in a post how not all of us are VEGANS, yet ...you still chat with "US"...because the tables can certainly be turned no matter what "socio-economic" status we are in life. One can say that you "fawn" over us. LOL :P JUST wait until you see the next review i am going to do for you on AMAZON love! Sean wrote a "?" in response to this last quote by TwistedDreams. TwistedDreams then posted saying that Sean is unappreciative and that she gave him so much love and attention and said nice things about him, yet he didn't even respond by saying "thank you", which is completely untrue. She also said that Sean is "fucked up" and said other negative things about Sean. TwistedDreams said that this keeps happening to her: that she is so nice to everyone but people treat her like shit in return even though she is depressed, which is again, not true in regards to Sean or other members of the board. Furthermore, being depressed does NOT give a person free authority to be abusive to others, which is what TwistedDreams has repeatedly done! TwistedDreams deleted this post prior to being copied, so I can only provide a general reflection of what she wrote. As can be seen, TwistedDreams IS looking for Sean's attention and approval and becomes FURIOUS when she thinks that she is being ignored by Sean. She thinks that Sean OWES her attention and time because she bought his CDs. Sean is NOT a doctor and CANNOT help TwistedDreams in the manner that she needs. Furthermore, Sean has gone above and beyond ANYTHING most other musicians would do when dealing with a fan with similar issues. TwistedDreams, please STOP bothering Sean with incessant emails and negative posts to this board accusing him of being anything less than the INCREDIBLY kind and tolerant person that he has been to you! He has REPEATEDLY suggested that you go to a professional, who is the ONLY person that can REALLY help you. TwistedDreams really should continue to work with a professional doctor until she can work out these mental health issues. This is for HER health and happiness, which really should be the priority. Anna
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I honestly cannot understand why any person would turn to a complete stranger/musician for any help whatsoever... It makes no sense at all and it's in fact
unfair to lay serious personal problems on a complete stranger who just happens to be a known musician and have a public forum. No one can expect a complete
stranger to truly help with deep psychological conditions. Real help comes in forms of regular contact and communication from real-life friends, family and
doctors.
Also, we have an online relationship only until we make plans to hang out, exchange phone numbers and go out together. Until that normal kind of friendship action happens, these online friendships are only that.� So, just be happy that someone you are a fan of posts daily and responds to you online. Do you think Manson would answer you? Go try his forum. See if he responds at all! To expect Sean to "help" or be your real friend in life is just expecting too much... Come on! This is obvious.� A doctor who can prescribe medication and therapy is the only one who can help any serious emotional problems. Sean is just a kind person who tries to educate people to be informed and help change the world for the better through his music and forum.� It makes no sense to me why a person would go to a musician for help in the first place. The band, STABBING WESTARD, frustrated from the help letters from fans wrote a song about it..� Here are the lyrics: "SAVE YOURSELF"
I know your life is empty
And you hate to face this world alone So you're searching for an angel Someone who can make you whole I can not save you I can't even save myself So just save yourself I know that you've been damaged Your soul has suffered such abuse But I am not your savior I am just as fucked as you I am just as fucked as you I can not save you I can't even save myself So just save yourself Please don't take pity on me Please don't take pity on me Please don't take pity on me Please don't take pity on me My life has been a nightmare My soul is fractured to the bone And if I must be lonely, I think I'd rather be alone I think I'd rather be alone You can not save me You can't even save yourself I can not save you I can't even save myself Save yourself So just save yourself and here's the video:
wth is with all the questions marks made while editing?
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AnnaMariaS wrote: Anna, thank you for reposting this, I remember this particular post having now just seen it again. This is just one example out of many of the posts that twisteddreams has posted here on the forum, and it gives a very good indication of her current state of mind. I'm not going to repeat everything that you have already written regarding this, you have pretty much summed it all up anyway!
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Interesting, I hadn't seen all of those quotes until now...
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hehe
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4. Forum Disruption : No threats, insults, or hate speech will be tolerated. If you post something that can be construed as a threat or racial
epithet, and are not a regular with a posting history that might explain the statement, you will be banned from this Community, no questions asked. If you are
posting material solely to cause disruption, you will be banned from this Community, no questions asked. Debate and differing opinion are welcome, but
purposeful negativity and trolling for attention will not be tolerated.
Kiss me running, I'm standing behind the tree
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Obsession can be very dangerous.
I agree with all of you but I feel I'm on this board too short to comment this situation. However, I absolutely disapprove the rude behavior. A short paraphrase of "Kiss": You're my obsession, of that my feelings only are the question do stop breaking away I know you love me and always will Edit: to avoid a misunderstanding - this paraphrase doesn't show my mind.
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elsi |
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Well... i read this topic yesterday and i just knew it will be full of unnecessary drama. Right now it's quite clear that you need professional help.
I'm holding myself back so i wouldn't say anything that would make the situation worse but TD, I suggest you stop posting here until you have gotten proper treatment. I (personally) am sick and tired of obsessive people
like you who at one point worship the ground that Sean walks on and ten minutes later insult him and the rest of the forum! Then you hide behind your illness
and act like nothing's wrong. Just.... take a minute and think about all of this. You can't even handle a simple discussion! So is this forum really
the place you should be right now?
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